Monday 08/19/2013 by bl002e

MYSTERY JAM MONDAY PART 156

Welcome to the 156th edition of Phish.net's Mystery Jam Monday! As always, the first person to identify the song and date of the mystery jam clip will win one MP3 download courtesy of our friends at LivePhish.com / Nugs.Net. Each person gets one guess per day, with the second “day” starting after I post the hint. A hint will be posted on Tuesday if necessary, with the answer to follow on Wednesday. Time to open wide them earlids and get crackin'...

Answer: Making it three consecutive first-time winners, @Mike_Thong came up with the correct answer in an impressively short amount of time: the 6/8/12 Roses Are Free. One of the most commonly-stated misconceptions Phish fans seem to have is that there was a time in Phish's history when the band would regularly add an extended jam to the ending of Roses. However, out of the 40 times Phish has played the song, the 2012 Worcester version is only the third of three such renditions, following the Island Tour and Big Cypress. So think about that before the next time you lump Roses in with songs neutered in the 3.0 era like Bag, Halley's, Tube, and Mike's.

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Comments

, comment by sirhotpants
sirhotpants Simple 8/12/98

?
, comment by Mike_Thong
Mike_Thong Roses Are Free 6-8-12
, comment by becker_ross
becker_ross Yep, it's the Roses
, comment by garcia17
garcia17 @Mike_Thong said:
Roses Are Free 6-8-12

nailed it
, comment by My_Powerful_Mind
My_Powerful_Mind God F'in damnnit! I knew I knew it! SOOOO close!
, comment by WayIFeel
WayIFeel Worcester Jam 6-8-12 j/k...

I knew I heard this live but was going through my '98 and '99 shows with Simple.
, comment by OliveLoaf
OliveLoaf Awh man. I actually knew this one!
, comment by lititzphan
lititzphan Dam have this on my MP3 and just listened to a few days ago,,,Way 2 go THONG

, comment by fromsliptofall
fromsliptofall first time I definitely knew the answer.
, comment by pronice
pronice I went to the show on 6/7 and not 8/8 - probably why I didn't get this one.
, comment by steamstash
steamstash ^ Bravo all.

Loving the spreadsheet of past MJM's!

You guys rock.
, comment by pronice
pronice I went to the show on 6/7 and not 6/8 - probably why I didn't get this one.
, comment by phootyjon
phootyjon saw that Roses was picked...probably right. Could be 8.6.2010 simple too. Probably not though.
, comment by Mike_Thong
Mike_Thong -thanks gang-
I hopin' for sweet redemption here after botching the Specimens of Beauty MMJ
, comment by mattsox94
mattsox94 Damn it, I was there and actually knew this one!
, comment by Choda
Choda What about 7/13/99 Roses. But the more u know but is funny.
, comment by bl002e
bl002e @Choda said:
What about 7/13/99 Roses.
They vamp off of the closing chord for a minute or so and then slow to an end. It's the closest any of the other thirty-seven versions get to an extended jam, but I didn't think it was qualified to fit into the same group as the other three.
, comment by MiguelSanchez
MiguelSanchez hahaha, that's a good write up accompanying the answer. i remember the first time i saw this song at polaris in '00. a guy next to was bitching because "it was the shortest version ever." i had to remind/inform him that there were only 2 long versions. good times.
, comment by nichobert
nichobert Props to the snarky answer

That's one of a few dozen phish crosses that Fleezus has tasked me with carrying
, comment by nichobert
nichobert Even Tube has eclipsed 8 minutes under 20% of the time.. 3 of those being right at 8 or 7:56

And I'm going to go out on a limb and proclaim a 6 minute 2013 Tube slaps around the mildly jammy late 90s/0xy versions, Dayton and Salt Lake and Hershey among others are clearly on another planet of course.

Gumbo 23 of 88 jammed. Halleys 23 of 102. Cities over 10 minutes 8 of 72 times.. But
12/28/11 and 8/6/10, easily the two best versions outside of the Went and Deer Creek 97
Are an average of 10:30 which is an insanely potent reminder of the power of 3.0s improv.

I made a list of songs that had gone yard more often than Roses and it was interesting. If I had an adderall prescription and didnt have a daughter I'd probably write 10,000 words about why people always point out Roses wasnt jammed but never point out that Number Line or Fee or KDF or Chalkdust or Suzy or Ya Mar or BOTT or Mango or a double handful of others weren't.

Gumbo, Halleys, Tube, Roses and AC/DC Bag are like the pistons of a veteran frustration generation engine. I feel like 3-4 of those came in clumps at points in 3.0 and it was always funny.

I'm of the mind that I'd rather hear all new and different songs get jammed out and leave these in the past, of course I'd rather hear them jammed than nothing jammed.. But there's a solid 30 songs that aren't thought of as jam songs which feel more pregnant with possibility these days.
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